Wednesday, February 09, 2005

-:In Response To David:-

1. Where has macroevolution ever been observed? What’s the mechanism for getting new complexity, such as new vital organs? If any of the thousands of vital organs evolved, how could the organism live before getting the vital organ? (Without a vital organ, the organism is dead—by definition.) If a reptile’s leg evolved into a bird’s wing, wouldn’t it become a bad leg long before it became a good wing? How could metamorphosis evolve?

Macroevolution? Evolution occurs over such a long period that it probably isn't very realistic for us to be able to "observe" it. I mean, fossil records as they are - do you know how unlikely a fossil is? Very, very, very unlikely. An organism has to die (first of all) and then die in the right place, in the right conditions, and not be disturbed for billions/millions of years and THEN finally have someone come across it by chance. Those odds are...very small. So, fossils really aren't an accurate record of the entire history of the world - just one snapshot. Can you say you truly know a person from one picture? Hmm.

The mechanism for gaining new complexity, uh, I think you mean evolution again, this is that whole chance thing isn't it...hmm. Well, obviously, an organism without a vital organ isn't gonna go very far and therefore dies etc. Which is why, you don't see people without hearts running around. There has been a very, very long time attributed to the evolution process...you start from the amino acids...then proteins...then things chain themselves together and it's just a huge huge huge process that takes a really, really long time. Of course, I'm not saying it's easy. I agree it's very unlikely. But it doesn't really require divine intervention, I say. And evolution occurs in small steps too. Radiation isn't THAT powerful, neither is genetic reshuffling...so a reptile having half a bird wing would be really stupid and improbable.


2. Do you realize how complex living things are? How could organs as complicated as the eye or the ear or the brain of even a tiny bird ever come about by chance or natural processes? How could a bacterial motor evolve? How could such motors work until all components evolved completely and were precisely in place?

a) yes. Otherwise I woulda picked Biology in school. b) Over a very, very, VERY long time. c) See statement b. d) What do you mean by motor? If you mean respiration sites etc, complexity occurs over a long period of time - no doubt the first ones were probably very small and very not efficient. Go read Bill Bryson.


3. If macroevolution happened, where are the billions of transitional fossils that should be there? Billions! Not a handful of questionable transitions. Why don’t we see a reasonably smooth continuum among all living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both?

do you know how unlikely a fossil is? Very, very, very unlikely. An organism has to die (first of all) and then die in the right place, in the right conditions, and not be disturbed for billions/millions of years and THEN finally have someone come across it by chance. Those odds are...very small. So, fossils really aren't an accurate record of the entire history of the world - just one snapshot. Can you say you truly know a person from one picture? Hmm.

4. Textbooks show an evolutionary tree, but where is its trunk and where are its branches? For example, what are the evolutionary ancestors of the insects?

Probably the trilobyte, I'm not sure, I'm too lazy to look it up. It's there. (if you wanna be broad, sure, bacteria.)

5. How could the first living cell begin? That’s a greater miracle than for bacteria to evolve into man. How could that first cell reproduce? Just before life appeared, did the atmosphere have oxygen or did it not have oxygen? Whichever choice you make creates a terrible problem for evolution. Both must come into existence at about the same time.

I don't know how the first one began, but neither do you. Of course, you're welcome to take the easy way out and say "Hey look someone made it ah well" - but you'll never understand it. Do you think all those paganists really knew about the science of crop rotation, how hormones make plants grow towards light, etc? Probably not.

The first cell reproduced by mitosis.

Respiration comes in two forms: aerobic (with oxygen) and anaerobic (without oxygen). Both exist to this day. So, really, you didnt have to have both. If I remember correctly, atmosphere didn't have oxygen level it did today - first life was anaerobic (i think it was CO2 to O2) and later life adapted to use O2.


6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books of coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then doesn’t the vast information sequence in the DNA molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source?

Natural process that creates information? Uh, your brain? Thinking? Dunno. -_- Uh, if DNA didn't assemble itself why would it still be here going on today? Cosmic rays etc are very powerful...without the ability to repair itself you'd be long dead/mutated. And...I hope you aren't calling bacterium stupid. They're more intelligent than you think. Bacteria seriously, they live everywhere. They're really hardy and can adapt to so many different kinds of environments...I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I'm not sure what the question was trying to say either so I'll move on.

7. Which came first, DNA or the proteins needed by DNA, which can only be produced by DNA?

Uh, amino acids, which form proteins.

8. How could sexual reproduction evolve? How could immune systems evolve?

If life could evolve why not sexual reproduction or immune systems? Probably over a long time, again.

9. If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn’t it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

a) Of course it takes huge amounts of intelligence to "Create a human". Heck, nobody alive could start from scratch with amino acids and form a person. Not possible. So the answer is yes it takes intelligence to create a human. What's your point?

b) No, I don't. But the world isn't just hydrogen.


10. If the solar system evolved, why do three planets spin backwards? Why do at least 30 moons revolve backwards?

Evolution applies to objects that are alive. Thus, the solar system did not "evolve". If you mean the physical processes which formed them though, spin is a fickle thing and space is not stationary. Sure, space is a lot of space but there's still things moving around in it. When there are things moving, there are things colliding. I think you can figure out why some spin backwards and why some moons revolve backwards again.

11. Can you name one reasonable hypothesis on how the moon got there—any hypothesis that is consistent with all the data? Why aren’t students told the scientific reasons for rejecting all the evolutionary theories for the moon’s origin? What about the other 138+ moons in the solar system?

What is with applying "evolution" to objects which are not alive, all of a sudden...-_- Probably some long time ago when Earth was very young (billions of years ago) it was hit by something and some matter broke free and formed the moon. There. That's a hypothesis. Can you test it? Well, can you go back in time and find out? I don't understand what "scientific reasons for rejecting evolution" means. Are you saying the moon is alive? Are you saying there have been many moons and they've reproduced and through natural selection Earth ended up with this moon? I hope not. And yes, what about all the other moons?

12. Where did matter, space, time, energy, or even the laws of physics come from? What about water?


Who knows. Scientists are still working. Go look up singularities or something ;_; it's really complex stuff. Water, however, is H2O. Two hydrogen atoms, one oxygen one. There.

13. How could stars evolve?

This question does not make sense.

14. Are you aware of all the unreasonable assumptions and contradictory evidence used by those who say the earth is billions of years old?

No, but please, do share.

15. Why are living bacteria found inside rocks that you say are hundreds of millions of years old and in meteorites that you say are billions of years old? Clean-room techniques and great care were used to rule out contamination.

Because space is empty for the most part so it's safe from being damaged etc. I don't really get what you mean by this question either. And who says meteorites can't originate from Earth?

16. Did you know that most scientific dating techniques indicate that the earth, solar system, and universe are young?

I'm sorry, I cannot consider anything beyond a billion years young. Please, do correct me if I am wrong. Carbon-14/16 or whatever isotope dating is NOT relevant, please do not mention that. That only applies to organic matter and has a relatively short half-life.

17. Why do so many ancient cultures have flood legends?

Because that was their way of explaining natural phenomena which they did not understand. So what if there was a flood thousands of years ago...heck, there was a tsunami last year. And a flood in New Zealand. What's your point?

18. Have you heard about the mitochondrial Eve and the genetic Adam? Scientists know that the mitochondrial Eve was the common female ancestor of every living person, and she appears to have lived only about 6,000–7,000 years ago.

No, I have not. That's nice, can you please provide a link? And yeah, sure, everybody's common ancestor could be from 6000-7000 years ago. I don't get your point, still.

19. Careful researchers have found the following inside meteorites: living bacteria, salt crystals, limestone, water, sugars, terrestrial-like brines, and earthlike isotopic patterns. Doesn’t this implicate Earth as their source—and a powerful launcher, “the fountains of the great deep?”

Okay, Earth is their source. And obviously, the rocks have come back to the source, if you want to look at it that way. So?

20. Would you explain the origin of any of the following 25 features of the earth:

The Grand Canyon and Other Canyons
Mid-Oceanic Ridge
Continental Shelves and Slopes
Ocean Trenches
Seamounts and Tablemounts
Earthquakes
Magnetic Variations on the Ocean Floor
Submarine Canyons
Coal and Oil Formations
Methane Hydrates
Ice Age
Frozen Mammoths

Major Mountain Ranges
Overthrusts
Volcanoes and Lava
Geothermal Heat
Strata and Layered Fossils
Metamorphic Rock
Limestone

Plateaus
Salt Domes
Jigsaw Fit of the Continents
Changing Axis Tilt
Comets

Asteroids and Meteoroids


Whoever asked this question obviously did not study Geography or is living in the 17th century. Thanks. I really don't see the point of explaining plate tectonics if you do not already know.

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